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Cody Lefever

Cody Lefever

力量训练教练、GZCL 框架创作者

人物简介

Cody Lefever(科迪·勒菲弗)是力量训练教练,也是 GZCL 框架及 GZCLP 等训练计划的创作者。他长期在 Swole at Every Height 博客分享训练文章和计划。他曾在美国海军陆战队服役,2012 年获彭德尔顿营地年度运动员荣誉;执教对象包括力量举运动员,以及想继续参与户外运动的人。

图片来源:Cody Lefever / GainzFever 官方人物页

看到一张 GZCLP 课表,最先注意到的往往是组数、次数和加重规则。真正练起来后,恢复、目标和喜欢的动作,却未必完全符合课表。这次访谈请 Cody Lefever 谈谈:这些安排为什么出现,可以怎样改,又有哪些取舍。他也讲到网上的分享怎样促成了小镇里的健身房,以及乐趣怎样帮助他继续进步。

以下为书面问答的中文翻译。导语与人物简介为编辑文字;回答保留受访者的观点。

01GZCL 与 GZCLP,最初是为谁设计的?

问:GZCLP 经常被推荐给初学者,而 GZCL 是一个更宽泛的框架。最初设计它们时,你心里想的是哪些人?除了组数、次数和重量,你最希望大家理解什么?

Cody Lefever:

这是个好问题。先有 GZCL,后有 GZCLP。后者是作为前者的入门而设计的。GZCLP 面向刚接触杠铃训练,更具体地说,是刚接触力量举的人。设计它,是想让新手看到,即使在训练早期,周期化训练和训练量的变化也能帮助力量发展。这也是我对 Starting Strength 这类更传统的新手计划最主要的不满:训练者一遇到瓶颈,就减载,然后回到相同的训练量重新开始。

至于 GZCL 框架,它源于 Reddit 上有人问我,在第一次和第二次力量举比赛之间,我是怎么训练的。在不到一年的时间里,我保持在同一个体重级别,把总成绩提高了 100 磅。在最初那套计划里,我有一个底层思路,也就是三个层级:T1、T2、T3。T1 以力量举为重点,所以我练单次组;当我能把第三个单次组做成多次时,就加重量来进阶。T2 用暂停深蹲、窄握卧推或罗马尼亚硬拉之类的动作,来支持主项。

GZCLP 的次数和组数是固定的,而更上层的 GZCL 框架则为相应层级规定范围。这样,训练者用 GZCLP 练过一个周期或几个周期后,就可以转向更自由的训练方式。我发现,在掌握基础之后,一旦人们能够自己主导训练,他们往往会更投入。毕竟,如果一个人根据这个框架写了自己的计划,他就会想证明它有效!

几年前,我发布了 GZCLP 的一个新版本,叫 P-Zero,因为有人问我,能不能增加训练量,并跳过 GZCLP 的单次组阶段。当然,这完全没问题。在考虑过几种经过修改的 GZCLP 计划之后,我创造了 P-Zero。它的思路是利用那个更宽泛的框架,去调整 GZCLP,让它适应不同训练者的不同目标。

02重量还在涨,恢复却越来越难,怎么办?

问:如果一个训练者的重量还在上涨,但恢复变得越来越困难,你会怎样帮助他判断,是继续推进,还是调整一些东西?你首先会看什么?如果你能想到自己训练或执教中的具体例子,也很想听听。

Cody Lefever:

这个问题有点棘手。如果只是动作速度变慢了,但姿态和技术仍然保持得很好,我会让他们继续。这能教会他们如何在吃力、速度缓慢的情况下把动作做完,并在重量越来越大时维持良好的动作形式。在这种情况下,他们可以缩小一次次训练之间的加重幅度,例如,把深蹲和硬拉每周增加 5 公斤,改成每周增加 2.5 公斤。

另一种情况是,如果他们觉得更疲劳,而且整体状态都很疲惫,那通常意味着需要减少训练量,比如在 GZCLP 中从三次组阶段转到两次组阶段。第一种情况,也就是需要学会把吃力的动作做下去,最终会变成第二种情况,也就是真的疲劳了。但练习这种“继续做下去”的能力很重要。

说到我自己的训练,我会想起很早以前开始使用 VDIP 的时候。VDIP 是 Volume Dependent Intensity Progression,即“由训练量决定强度进阶”,后来它逐渐发展成了我最新的框架 General Gainz。VDIP 变得非常吃力,所以我必须找到一种办法,在改变组数和次数安排的同时,仍然达到训练量目标。

这个需要促使我作出改变:原先在一个动作的所有组里,我都做 Max Rep Sets,也就是尽可能多做次数的组,这是 VDIP 的做法;后来改成先做一组 Rep Max(RM),再用相同重量做单次组(如果少于 5 次),以及用相同重量做“半数组”(half-sets,也就是说,RM 组之后的每组次数,是 RM 次数的一半;例如,6RM 之后做三次组)。

当时 General Gainz 还是一个新框架,我一边试验,一边把它发展得更完善。现在,它已经与我最初的 GZCL 框架完全不同了,因为它不建立在百分比结构上,而是以 Rep Max 能力为依据。不过,它仍然保留了层级这个概念。

译注

这里的“吃力”有动作姿态和技术仍然可靠这一前提。half-sets 指后续每组次数约为前面 RM 组的一半,使用相同重量。原答未说明恰好 5 次、奇数如何取整及各组终止标准;这段保留其方法的发展经过。

03计划可以改到什么程度?

问:在中国,有人分享你作品的译文,也有人分享经过改编的训练计划,有时会对训练频率、辅助训练或进阶规则作出相当大的调整。你认为哪些部分可以灵活改变?哪些改动可能会偏离原来的目的?面对这些不同版本,如果读者想理解你的方法,你会推荐哪些原始资料作为起点?

Cody Lefever:

首先,我很高兴看到人们自己主导训练,并根据自己的能力、需要、目标和限制去作调整。这些本来就应该始终纳入考虑。

就 GZCL 这个框架和 GZCLP 这套计划而言,调整的灵活程度可以相差很大。GZCL 更灵活,训练者可以在它的指导原则内搭建自己的计划,选择训练频率、自己喜欢的动作,以及进阶方式。GZCLP 则允许训练者调整动作,同时保留它的组数和次数进阶模式。

不过,P-Zero 正是这样诞生的!人们想要比 GZCLP 更多的训练量,同时又想沿用按训练量阶段推进的模式。在这种情况下,原来的目的确实发生了变化。GZCLP 原本面向更偏重力量举的人群,因为它包含单次组阶段,里面有很多单次组,所以与三次组和两次组阶段相比,这个阶段会相当短。P-Zero 没那么以力量举为中心,所以更适合想增肌、变强,却不想那么快就考虑把 1RM 推到极限,或准备比赛的训练者。

至于资料,大家可以读我的博客 Swole At Every Height,尤其是下面这些文章:

- Swole at Every Height: The GZCL Method for Powerlifting
《用于力量举的 GZCL 方法》:最初的计划与框架构想。
- Swole at Every Height: The GZCL Method, Simplified.
《GZCL 方法简化版》:上一篇的简化版本,并对框架本身作了更多说明。
- Swole at Every Height: GZCL Applications & Adaptations
《GZCL 的应用与改编》:篇幅长得多,详细介绍了 GZCL 的概念、实施方法,以及从这个框架中发展出来的几套计划,包括 GZCLP。
- P-Zero - Cody Lefever
P-Zero,需要订阅。

译注

“单次组阶段较短”的具体时间尺度,以及“把 1RM 推到极限”所指的测试或训练上限,原答没有进一步说明。P-Zero 需要订阅是 Cody 在信中的说明,订阅要求以原网站当前说明为准。

04公开分享,给人们带来了什么?

问:有没有哪条读者的消息,或者你亲眼看到的某个人生活中的变化,让你觉得公开分享自己的训练内容特别值得?我们很想听听这对你意味着什么,也包括变强以外的事情。

Cody Lefever:

当然有!我收到过无数这样的消息。有时是一位妈妈或爸爸,因为变强、重新恢复体能,又能陪孩子一起玩了。有时是一个人决定戒掉毒品或酒精,转而拿起杠铃。

四年前,我开了一家健身房。能做到这一点,是因为十多年来我一直在网上免费分享自己的训练想法。这带来了潜在客户、线上客户,还有世界各地许多人的慷慨捐赠。我的健身房给我、我的家人,以及我们这个小镇带来了很大的福气。这里大约住着 300 人;我所在的是科罗拉多州的 Alma,北美海拔最高的城镇。

在我的健身房里,有人告诉我,有一个能锻炼的地方,对他们有多重要。他们的体能越来越好,人也越来越强,能够更长时间地从事自己喜欢的活动,比如徒步、山地骑行、双板滑雪、单板滑雪等等。

我的健身房也是一个让大家聚在一起的地方。我们在这里交朋友,而在这样偏远的乡村地区,交朋友并不容易。健身房让人们除了酒吧之外,又有了一个去处,也帮助他们给生活带来积极的改变。

这家健身房之所以能办起来,是因为十四年前,我开始在网上免费分享自己的训练。我从没想到,它会给别人带来这么积极的影响,更没想到它能传到世界另一端!知道中国有这么棒的人在用我的训练方法,就像 Alma 那些很棒的人一样,我心里真的很温暖。相隔那么远,却又那么相似。真好。

05寻找最优计划时,怎样保留训练的乐趣?

问:如果一个年轻训练者总是担心找不到“最优”的计划,你会怎样帮助他,在继续进步的同时,也给创造性和乐趣留出空间?在你自己的训练里,你怎么判断哪些细节值得关注,哪些可以放下?

Cody Lefever:

追求“最优”很符合人性,我不会责怪年轻训练者想把它放在训练本身其他方面之前。不过,正如你指出的,这样做会缩小我们在健身房里发挥创造力、探索身体能力的空间。

谁说一个动作就比另一个动作更好?一个新手可能比起颈后深蹲,更喜欢前蹲,但他可能永远不会知道,因为他已经被说服,相信要举起最多的重量,低杠颈后深蹲才是“最优”的。没错,是这样,但它可能没那么有趣,而且长期下来,可能把这个人消磨得彻底不再练了。那就太可惜了!

我更希望年轻训练者去尝试不同动作,找到自己最喜欢的那些,因为这种乐趣会推动他们投入努力、持续训练,而努力和持续性是成长的主要动力。一套最优的计划,即使在组数、次数、动作选择和进阶上都做到了最优,也比不过一个早上醒来就想冲进力量房大干一场的人。

至于我,我发现自己比起卧推,更喜欢过顶推举。于是,你猜怎么着?我不再把卧推放在优先位置,过顶推举练得开心多了。这让我刷新了很多个人纪录,也让我愿意在杠铃下面投入更多努力。卧推对我来说是个特别难进步的动作;我不再为从卧推里挤出一点点进步而操心,转而开始练推举,感觉快乐多了。这种快乐又推动我在其他动作上更加努力,然后那些动作也开始进步了。

创造性在健身房里确实被低估了。所以我很喜欢看到人们自己主导训练,根据我的框架,不管是 GZCL 还是 General Gainz,搭建自己的计划,或者参照其他计划来设计自己的版本,比如 Jacked & Tan 2.0、The Rippler、Ultra High Frequency,或 P-Zero。

有些人想优先发展某个动作或某个身体部位,这很好。我则更倾向于把注意力放在更有挑战、因而也更有回报的事情上,我觉得这很有趣。推举以前是我最差的动作,后来变成了我最好的动作。这个过程我很享受,尽管它并不是为了举起最多重量的“最优”选择。

我的深蹲也是如此。我为它挣扎了很久,但有一天,我下定决心要把它练好,于是定下了一些疯狂的目标,要完成一些高次数组。在一年里,我真的做到了。你可以在这篇帖子里读到这段经历:The Tom Platz Experience: Pain, pleasure, and high rep squats : r/Fitness,也就是《Tom Platz 体验:痛苦、快乐与高次数深蹲》。

当然,这不是最优的,但它很难,而这就意味着它很好玩。去拥抱困难,而不是围绕那些看起来做得到的事情寻求最优。你会走得更远。

英文原答
1. GZCLP is often recommended to beginners, while GZCL is a broader framework. Who did you originally have in mind when developing them, and what would you most like people to understand beyond the sets, reps and weights? A: Great question. GZCL came before GZCLP. The latter was devised as an introduction to the former. GZCLP, for people new to barbell training, and more specifically powerlifting, was crafted to show novices how periodized training and volume changes can benefit strength development even early on. That was my main complaint about more traditional beginner programs like Starting Strength, in which lifters deload and reset to the same volume whenever they get stuck. As for the GZCL framework, it came from people asking me on Reddit how I trained between my first and second powerlifting meets, where I added 100 pounds to my total in less than a year while staying in the same weight class. In that original program, I had an underlying concept (the three Tiers: T1, T2, T3). T1 focused on powerlifting, so I practiced singles and advanced them by adding weight when I could turn the third single into reps. T2 supported the main lift with exercises like a pause squat, close-grip bench, or Romanian deadlift. While GZCLP has fixed reps and sets, the overarching GZCL framework prescribes ranges for the associated tier. This lets lifters move into a more freeform style after a cycle (or a few) with GZCLP. I've found that once people can take charge of their training (after learning the basics), they tend to commit more; after all, if someone writes their own plan from the framework, they'll want to prove it works! A new iteration of GZCLP, P-Zero, was published a few years back because people asked me whether they could increase volume and skip the singles phase of GZCLP. Of course, this was no problem. After considering several altered GZCLP programs, I created P-Zero, a concept that uses the broader framework to adapt GZCLP for different lifters with different goals. 2. If a lifter’s weights are still going up but recovery is becoming harder, how would you help them decide whether to keep going or adjust something? What would you look at first? A concrete example from your own training or coaching would be really helpful, if one comes to mind. This one is a little tricky. If the movement is just slowing down but the posture and technique remain sound, I would have them keep going. This will teach them how to grind and maintain good form under increasingly heavier weights. In this case, they might reduce the weight increases from workout to workout, for example, from 5 kg/week for squat and deadlift to 2.5 kg/week. Alternatively, if they feel more fatigued and generally run down, that tends to signal they need to reduce volume (such as going from the triples stage to the doubles stage with GZCLP). The first case (needing to learn to grind) will eventually turn into the second (truly fatigued), but it is important to practice that "keep going" ability. In my training, I think back to my very early days using VDIP (Volume Dependent Intensity Progression), which eventually led to General Gainz, my latest framework. VDIP became very demanding, so I had to find a way to hit volume goals while changing the set/rep scheme. This demand resulted in me going from doing Max Rep Sets for all sets with an exercise (VDIP) to doing one Rep Max followed by singles at the same weight (if less than 5 reps) and half-sets (meaning that the reps per set after the RM are half the value of the RM; example: 6RM is followed by triples) at the same weight. As I experimented with the then-new General Gainz framework, I built it out to be more robust, and it is now wholly different from my original GZCL framework (as it is not built on a percentage structure; instead, it uses Rep Max ability), though it still uses the Tiers concept. 3. In China, people share translations of your work and adapted versions of your programs, sometimes changing the frequency, assistance work or progression rules quite substantially. Which parts do you see as flexible, and which changes might lose the original purpose? What original resources would you recommend as a starting point for readers trying to understand the method amid these different versions? First, I am so glad people are taking charge of their training and adapting it to their abilities, needs, goals, and limitations. Those should always be considerations. Considering GZCL (the framework) and GZCLP (the program), adaptations can vary widely in flexibility. Because GZCL is more flexible, lifters can build their own programs within its guidelines and choose frequency, exercise preferences, and progression patterns. GZCLP lets lifters adjust the exercises while sticking to the sets/reps progression model. However, that's how P-Zero was born! People wanted more volume than GZCLP offered while still following the volume stage progression model. In that case, it did change the original purpose. GZCLP was intended for a more powerlifting-biased audience, as it included a singles stage (lots of them, so it would be fairly short compared to the triples and doubles stages). P-Zero is less powerlifting-centric, so it's better suited for trainees who want to get bigger and stronger without worrying about maxing out their 1RM nearly as quickly or preparing for a meet. As for resources, people could read my blog, Swole At Every Height, specifically these posts: Swole at Every Height: The GZCL Method for Powerlifting <https://swoleateveryheight.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-gzcl-method-for-powerlifting.html> (The original program and framework conception) Swole at Every Height: The GZCL Method, Simplified. <https://swoleateveryheight.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-gzcl-method-simplified_13.html> (A simplified version of the above, getting into the framework itself a bit more) Swole at Every Height: GZCL Applications & Adaptations <https://swoleateveryheight.blogspot.com/2016/02/gzcl-applications-adaptations.html> (A much longer post detailing the GZCL concepts, how to implement them, and several program born from the framework itself, including GZCLP.) P-Zero - Cody Lefever <https://gzcl.substack.com/p/p-zero> (P-Zero, subscription required.) 4. Has a message from a reader, or something you’ve seen change in someone’s life, made sharing your work publicly feel especially worthwhile? We’d love to hear what it meant to you, including anything beyond getting stronger. Absolutely! I've received countless messages like this. Sometimes it is a mother or father who's regained the ability to play with their kids by becoming stronger and getting back in shape. Other times it is someone who has decided to kick drugs or alcohol and instead pick up the barbell. Four years ago, I opened a gym. This was only possible because, for over a decade, I shared my training ideas for free online (which generated leads, online clients, and many generous donations from people around the world). My gym has been a huge blessing to my family and me, and to our small town (around 300 people live here; I'm in Alma, Colorado, the highest-elevation town in North America). In my gym, people have told me how much having a place to work out means to them. They're getting in great shape, getting stronger, and can do the activities they enjoy for longer, such as hiking, mountain biking, skiing, snowboarding, etc. My gym is also a place for community. We make friends here (something that is hard to do in such a rural location). The gym gives people somewhere to go besides the bar and helps them make positive changes in their lives. This gym started because, fourteen years ago, I began sharing my training online for free. I never expected it would impact others so positively, or that it would reach across the world! It warms my heart to know awesome people in China are using my training, just like the awesome people of Alma. So far away, yet so similar. Beautiful. 5. For a young lifter who worries about finding the “optimal” program, how would you help them make room for creativity and enjoyment while still making progress? In your own training, how do you decide which details deserve attention and which you can let go? The desire for "optimal" is very human, and I don't fault young lifters for wanting to prioritize it over other aspects inherent to training. That said, as you pointed out, it shrinks the opportunity to be creative in the gym and explore our body's ability. Who says that one lift is better than another? A new lifter might enjoy the front squat more than the back squat, but never know it because they've been convinced the low-bar back squat is "optimal" for moving the most weight. Sure, it is, but it may be less fun and, in the long run, wear the lifter out such that they quit lifting altogether. That would be a shame! I would much rather have young lifters experiment with exercises to find which they enjoy most, because that enjoyment will fuel effort and consistency, the primary drivers of growth. An optimal program (in terms of sets, reps, exercise selection, and progression) can't beat a lifter who wakes up in the morning wanting to ATTACK the weight room. As for me, I've found I like the overhead press more than the bench. So, guess what? I stopped prioritizing the bench and had way more fun pressing overhead. This led to many personal records and a lot more effort under the bar. I no longer worried about eking out a little progress on the bench, which is a very stubborn lift for me; instead, I started pressing and felt much happier. That happiness fueled effort with other lifts. Then those lifts started improving too. Creativity is truly an undervalued aspect in the gym. That is why I like it when people take charge of their training by building their own programs from my frameworks, whether GZCL or General Gainz, or by modeling one after another, like Jacked & Tan 2.0, The Rippler, Ultra High Frequency, or P-Zero. While some want to prioritize a lift or a body part, which is fine, I tend to focus on what will be more challenging and, therefore, more rewarding, which I find fun. My press used to be my worst lift, then it became my best. I enjoyed the process, though it wasn't "optimal" for moving the most weight. Likewise for my squat. I struggled with it for a long time, but one day I committed to getting better, so I set some crazy goals to hit high-rep sets. Over the course of a year, I did just that. You can read about that in this post: The Tom Platz Experience: Pain, pleasure, and high rep squats : r/Fitness <https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/1953k9l/the_tom_platz_experience_pain_pleasure_and_high/>. Sure, it wasn't optimal, but it was difficult, which means it was fun. Embrace the difficult instead of optimizing for what seems achievable. You'll go further.
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